Polke Post 18 - Dos and Don’ts – Smoke without Fire, Artist Talk with Camille Henrot 

POLKE POST 18
Dos and Don’ts – Smoke without Fire 

A year ago, we opened the exhibition Productive Image Interference. Sigmar Polke and Artistic Perspectives Today at the Kunsthalle Düsseldorf. 
For the exhibition the artist Camille Henrot created a new group of works, Dos and Don'ts, in collaboration with Mike Karstens. 
In conversation with curator Nelly Gawellek, she talks about the production of the works, her artistic affinity with Sigmar Polke, and the technical possibilities of the present. 

Nelly Gawellek: Hello, Camille. We invited you to be part of the exhibition Productive Image Interference, and in our first Skype call—I think it was in June 2020—you told me that Sigmar Polke has had a great influence on you. What was it in his works that fascinated you?
 
Camille Henrot: What was really encouraging for me was his relationship to style and images and especially his acceptance of inconsistency in terms of style. He uses images like an alphabet, a sort of code. Another thing that attracted me is his interest in tricks and imitation—he would imitate a technique that is easy to reproduce technically but a lot of work to “fake.” It’s a subtle shift of aesthetics that allows the image to be understood in a completely different way. I’m thinking of his Rasterbilder [pictures based on the halftone printing technique], where he imitates printed images, but the work is done by hand.

For my own works I thought about how some printing techniques appear to imitate the hand and how much the hand is then, in return, trying to imitate the print. It is a rather perverse circle in terms of image making, and that idea was interesting to me. This is why I proposed to create new works for the exhibition. Drawing is my main activity, but when we started talking, I had started painting only a year prior. I had been interested in the idea of creating paintings that don’t look like they are painted or play with the possibilities that new printing machines or computer applications like Procreate or Photoshop offer. They have tools that imitate painterly techniques while having their very own aesthetic that has almost become a tradition in painting itself through the work of other artists such as Avery Singer.
“Image interference” means two different things to me: the interference of new technologies into image making, but also the potential of images in regard to their role in our society. I have been asking myself how images are coded today and how existing images can be used like an alphabet. I like Roland Barthes’s idea that language is fascist, but literature is freeing.
I think it’s similar in image technology. There is something fascist about the internet, with Google, for example. There is so much information, but it’s directed and controlled. Yet in the process of reappropriating those images, there is a way to recreate a freedom and a space of challenging main discourses.

Installation view,
Installation view, Productive Image Interference. Sigmar Polke and Artistic Perspectives Today, Kunsthalle Düsseldorf, 2021 | © Camille Henrot, Photo: Katja Illner

NG: You mentioned that you were inspired by Polke’s technical approach to painting, in his Rasterbilder, or in other works such as Strahlen Sehen (Seeing Rays, 2006–07), for which he distorted images on the photocopier and added an extra layer of acrylic gel to the canvas to create a holographic effect. So Polke used a mix of mechanical and manual techniques to create optical tricks. Can you tell us a little bit about your process in the creation of Dos and Don’ts for which you deployed digital, technical, and manual techniques?

CH: It’s actually a long series of steps. In the beginning, I painted large brushstrokes with ink, which I then scanned and vectorized. It is the opposite of what Polke did with the dots. I didn’t start with the printed image, but with the handmade. I had the vectorized brushstrokes produced as vinyl masks to cover the canvas, which was then prepared with a gesso and printed on. I actually worked with the printer and gallerist Mike Karstens, whom you introduced me to, and who was involved in some of Polke’s most elaborate print editions. It was very inspiring, and I think he has a big part in this project. After printing on the canvases, I removed the vinyl masks, which reveal the raw canvas. I then painted over the surface of the print and the raw canvas—inside and outside the brushstroke form.

Camille Henrot in Mike Karstens’s print shop, 2021
Camille Henrot in Mike Karstens’s print shop, 2021  | © Photo: Nelly Gawellek
Camille Henrot, 
Camille Henrot, Dos and Don’ts (After Being Doing), 2021 | © Camille Henrot

­In After Being Doing I painted a sonogram image with watercolors. When we talk about interference, there are not only technical aspects involved, but also societal and political aspects. I think about how digital media has impacted surveillance, for example—an issue that Polke was also interested in. I always considered our skin the final boundary that protected us—but this is no longer the case when we consider the pervasive use of health apps that mine our data. Sonography—a medical procedure using high-frequency sound waves to produce images of inside the body both illuminates and interferes with that human boundary. There’s a lot of writing about how ultrasound actually disturbs the baby in the belly and how they try to escape. They don’t want to be seen, in a sense, like many of us who don’t like to be photographed or filmed. So this is a reflection on what it means to be observed and on the tension between security and privacy. The same dynamics apply to research on the internet. We get help, but we are also seen.
I thought this series would be the right occasion to use my collection of screenshots of computer error messages. I think Sigmar Polke was also doing this—accumulating things—and one day he knew what to do with it, right? It was, of course, impossible to print the screenshots in high quality. So again it was a little bit like “Polke in reverse”—we completely recomposed and filled in every single line in order to print it larger with inkjet.
 
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If you would like to read more you can take a look in our publication Productive Image Interference. Sigmar Polke and Current Perspectives, published by DISTANZ Verlag. Or check out the recording on the festival's site: http://festival-anna-polke-stiftung.com.